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#134126 - 04/14/01 03:40 PM Re: The Persistence of Memory part 4: Comments
Wendymr Offline
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Sheila said:
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each 'time ripple' is completely separate and isolated from the others. No matter what she does in each one, it won't affect the history of the others in the slightest. All she can do is hurry up the progress of her relationship with Clark to bring that single 'time ripple' into synch with reality (or what Adam called the main time line). Then she has to start all over again in the next ripple.


I'm sorry; maybe I'm stupid, but I really don't understand this. Lois is with Clark in the ASU rewrite, telling him that she loves him. So what, exactly, is he going to think when she leaves and her true self from that time-line takes over? <IMG SRC="dizzy.gif" border="0"> Do you mean that as soon as she leaves he forgets it all or something? This just doesn't make sense to me, great as the story is.


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#134127 - 04/14/01 03:48 PM Re: The Persistence of Memory part 4: Comments
NearlyNoelNeill Offline
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Just got to all four parts, Zoom and it's great. I took the changes to each be to a different timeline...thereby correcting multiple instances (sort of like programmatic recursion--I'm such a geek! smile ).

Whatever, it's just wonderful to see a fic from you again because you have such a great sense of humor and your cultural refs are nothing short of hysterical.

Can't wait for the rest.

Sherry

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#134128 - 04/14/01 04:49 PM Re: The Persistence of Memory part 4: Comments
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This continues to be great... I love that Lois got a chance to tell Cat that she was in love with Clark ... even if Cat didn't believe her <g> Actually, I think I like that touch a lot; it's clever. And I'm on the edge of my seat to find out what you'll do with the "ordinary man" scene. At least "our" Lois is in control right from the start so we won't have to replay the beginning of the scene.

As for the time ripple thing ... I think it makes sense but I'm not sure I could explain it wink Wendy, think of it as hiking up panty hose biggrin Even though you've moved up the bottom few inches, the stuff above it hasn't moved yet, until you yank there, too... unless of course I'm entirely off-base smile Either way, though, I'm enjoying this immensely. I suspect the goal is to get L&C to a point where it'd be entirely normal for them to be pregnant by the end of S2, but I'll wait to see.

Oh, and what's with our friendly tattooed research assistant at Star Labs? I have a suspicion or two but I'm probably way off...

PJ
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#134129 - 04/14/01 05:02 PM Re: The Persistence of Memory part 4: Comments
zoomway Offline

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Originally posted by Wendymr:
I'm sorry; maybe I'm stupid, but I really don't understand this. Lois is with Clark in the ASU rewrite, telling him that she loves him. So what, exactly, is he going to think when she leaves and her true self from that time-line takes over? Do you mean that as soon as she leaves he forgets it all or something? This just doesn't make sense to me, great as the story is.


Adam, Sheila and NearlyNoelNeill got it right, but maybe if I repost these few snips from part 2 where Wells and Klein are explaining to Lois, it will be more clear ...

"From what Wells told me, and from what I know of temporal theory, Clark encountering himself in 1966 caused the creation of duplicate time lines." Klein straightened with a groan. "Not that I know that much about temporal theory, you understand."

Lois glanced at the older Wells. "Like the alternate Metropolis?"

"Oh, no, my dear. These worlds are identical in every detail. Imagine a stone being cast into still water causing rings to ripple out from the center. The rings are concentric. Since they don't touch each other, they can't overlap and cause an alternate reality..."

Lastly ...

"Theoretically," the elder Wells began, "if you "leap" into each of these extraneous time lines and are successful, they'll vanish in favor of the one *true* time line. There will be no more distortion and Clark will be freed from the temporal loop."

As you can see, these are said to be "extraneous" time lines and that they will vanish in favor of the true time line if she is successful.

When she is successful, she leaps again, and she's in a new time line, but a time line that would have moved along just as the one true time line had to that point she finds herself in. But because she was successful in the previous time line, she leaps forward into the new one (All Shook Up in the one she just left to Barbarians at the Planet in the one she finds herself in now).

I know it's a little complicated, but imagine if your own life history had one true path, but at a certain point, 9 duplicates of that history occurred. If you had the ability to "leap" back into yourself at an earlier point in one of those time lines, you'd be able to change the path of your history, but only in that one time line duplicate that you leaped into because it is in no way connected to the others.

That's the basic technobabble premise of this story, but the duplicates are causing glitches in the real time line. That's why the real time line has to be restored by getting rid of the duplicates, and that's Lois' mission.

Of course, in any story plot, especially if it deals with the "fantastic," some things have to be taken more on faith than logic. In the movie "Mr. Destiny," for example, the protagonist believes his life would have gone in a different and much better direction had he hit a home run during an important baseball game rather than what really happened -- he struck out.

I love these kinds of movies, but in the back of my head I'm thinking that there probably wouldn't have been a profound difference if a 14 year-old boy had hit a home run instead of striking out. However, if a certain actor hadn't wrecked his knee during a pre-game practice for the Buffalo Bills ... wink

Zoom
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#134130 - 04/14/01 05:02 PM Re: The Persistence of Memory part 4: Comments
LaurieD Offline
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What a fascinating way to do a "retrospective", Zoom. I am loving this. I am very curious to see how Lois gets herself out of her current situation. wink This story show amazing creativity!

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#134131 - 04/14/01 05:04 PM Re: The Persistence of Memory part 4: Comments
Raconteur27 Offline
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Very interesting premise, Zoom. I must say that I too am wondering what happens in each time line when the future Lois 'leaps' out and the old Lois takes over. Will the old Lois remember what happened? Will she have any clue why? Will she deny it all and start undoing what future Lois started. Uh oh, as Austin Powers would say, I've been thinking about time travel too much and I've gone cross eyed. confused

edit: having now seen Zoom's reply, it all makes much more sense. Thanks, Zoom.
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#134132 - 04/14/01 05:06 PM Re: The Persistence of Memory part 4: Comments
Wendymr Offline
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Thanks for the explanation, Zoom... yeah, I think I've got it now! rolleyes


Wendy

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#134133 - 04/14/01 05:49 PM Re: The Persistence of Memory part 4: Comments
CKgroupie Offline
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Zoom,
I'm loving this. Can't say I understand it, but I still love it wink

It's a great way to watch all those old scenes again and see Lois fix things!

But you have to give us more soon, please!
Nicole
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#134134 - 04/14/01 09:10 PM Re: The Persistence of Memory part 4: Comments
gerry Offline
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Zoom, I'm not going to try too hard to understand the logistics of the story, I'm just going to sit back and continue to enjoy it and wonder what Lois is going to do next.
Gerry

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#134135 - 04/14/01 09:49 PM Re: The Persistence of Memory part 4: Comments
Jessi Offline
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Ah, I get it now. Thanks.

Jessi

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