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#177814 - 05/29/02 10:29 AM Re: Comments: Roadtrekking: Part 2/12
ChiefPam Offline
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Registered: 04/14/01
Posts: 1966
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Let me make it very clear, in case there was any doubt, that I'm only expressing my opinion, here, and I leave it entirely up to the authors what, if anything, to do about it smile Looks like I misjudged your story intent, so never mind me smile

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So we “what iffed”. What if Lois was infatuated with Clark? Does she have to have a crush on Superman? What if Clark doesn’t realize that he’s interested in her in a romantic way? How could that be? Clark is always in love with Lois?


Oh, I love "what if" questions. It's one of my very favorite questions smile It's just that my *other* favorite question is "why" wink But I can see that I'm not supposed to analyze this too deeply, which is fine.

Enjoy the story, everyone smile

PJ
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#177815 - 05/29/02 02:32 PM Re: Comments: Roadtrekking: Part 2/12
jwb Offline
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Registered: 04/12/01
Posts: 86
While I am enjoying this story (it's wonderfully creative, BTW), I too am a bit put off by Clark's obnoxious behaviour. True, this is an elseworlds story, so I'm willing to see how this change effects Lois and Clark's relationship.

I was totally dumbfounded by his inability to recognize that he was attracted to Lois in *that* way. In the first section, Clark thinks about how he knows how he is supposed to feel around women. I'm just really suprised he doesn't recognize it's happening to him now.

One thing that tripped me up in this section....

In the first section, Lois thinks/feels that Clark stole Superman from her. She was really mad about it. And yet in this section she says:

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And, for some reason that she couldn’t explain, she trusted him not to make trouble or take her source.


That threw me a bit since she accuses him of doing that very thing with Superman.

It is an entertaining read, and I'm looking forward to how you manage these different personalities you have created.
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#177816 - 05/29/02 04:00 PM Re: Comments: Roadtrekking: Part 2/12
Wendymr Offline
Lane and Kent

Registered: 04/11/01
Posts: 2147
Loc: Irish exile in the UK
This is very entertaining, I agree: I was grinning from time to time while reading this part, and especially in envisaging Lois removing her bra - oh, a removal strategy I know very well! wink (though personally I like underwires goofy ).

But I agree with Pam and Jeff: I blinked - in fact, more than blinked - at Clark's failure to realise why he was all steamed up in Lois's presence. At first I didn't even realise that he wasn't supposed to be realising it; it seemed so obvious to me that he would recognise the symptoms of attraction and then try to work out why he was feeling it now when he'd never felt it at any point so far in his life. It did take me several paras to figure out that he simply had no idea why he was reacting like that.

And... I just can't buy it. Yes, the story is very entertaining and I can see lots of fascinating possibilities ahead, but if I can't buy one of the base premises (that Clark has no idea why he is reacting like that around Lois), I'm going to find it hard to read and accept what happens next. But then, that's just my opinion, and you guys have lots of other people who are enjoying it and can accept it for what it is, so you don't necessarily need to worry about me. wink

As for Clark's behaviour, well, apart from the fact that the June Cleaver reference doesn't have the same resonance with me because I only know it by 'translation', in effect, because someone told me a while ago who June Cleaver was, I found his repetitive calling Lois 'June' mildly irritating in the sense that I thought we'd got the joke already so there wasn't really any need to repeat it so many times. Do I think it made him obnoxious? I really don't know, and I'd need to re-read the instalment to see what I think.

Anyway, I suppose what I'm saying here is that there's lots in this story that I love and am finding amusing, but there are a couple of aspects which are jarring with me. I'll need to read on to find out whether these are relatively minor aspects which I can ignore in the context of the overall story, or whether they're sufficiently major that they'd detract from my enjoyment of it. smile


Wendy smile

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#177817 - 05/29/02 04:36 PM Re: Comments: Roadtrekking: Part 2/12
Vicki K Offline
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Registered: 04/12/01
Posts: 302
Loc: AZ
Hi, Gerry and ML! I've been reading the comments with interest, mostly because I've been getting a huge charge out of this story! Of course Clark should realize why he feels hot and bothered around Lois - the fact that he is so clueless is hilarious!! Yeah, maybe he SHOULD mention it to his parents the next time he talks to them. biggrin

I personally found the whole June/Billy Ray (and whatever else she called Clark) name calling funny. Yes, she did ask him to stop, but she's giving it right back. And if Clark is naive to the point that he doesn't realize why his pants are getting tight (oy), then he may still be going through the adolescent male stage of being annoying because he is enjoying Lois's reaction to it. Or he just likes annoying her! Or both. wink But I'm sure getting a kick out of it!

Why *is* it that so many men are fascinated/mesmerized by the whole "take off your bra and pull it out of your sleeve without disturbing your t-shirt" trick? [that sounded like something Maxwell Smart would say!!]? Can any woman on this list NOT do that?? If so, we can arrange lessons. biggrin Very funny part, especially when Clark kept telling her to stop squirming and she said "I'm not" as she tried in vain to find a more comfortable position away from the poking wire.

The constant sparring between Lois and Clark is different than what we're used to, but it's interesting. I think you've got the banter down well and the dialogue, and the whole story is very well written, and a lot of fun! I'm curious to see what will happen next, and of course I'm assuming the cigar-rolling man is Lex??

How about posting part 3 now, okay?? Please?? smile

Vicki
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#177818 - 05/29/02 04:51 PM Re: Comments: Roadtrekking: Part 2/12
jwb Offline
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Registered: 04/12/01
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Why *is* it that so many men are fascinated/mesmerized by the whole "take off your bra and pull it out of your sleeve without disturbing your t-shirt" trick? [that sounded like something Maxwell Smart would say!!]? Can any woman on this list NOT do that?? If so, we can arrange lessons.


I'll be brave and try to answer this one. Bear with me, I will probably make myself look like a total smuck and will quite possibly embarrass myself....

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The fascinating/mesmerizing part of the whole thing is not that it is physically possible. If one takes the time to think about it logically, then it is obviously possible to perform this act.

No, men rarely think logically when it comes to watching women remove clothing. There is always that slim possibility that maybe, just maybe the guy might get to see more than they were supposed to. Plus the fact that there is now one less layer of clothing between him and you. wink
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#177819 - 05/29/02 05:22 PM Re: Comments: Roadtrekking: Part 2/12
Helen :) Offline
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Loc: UK
Jeff:
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There is always that slim possibility that maybe, just maybe the guy might get to see more than they were supposed to.

See, this is exactly why we women have perfected this until it is almost an art form! (just for the record, I can do it too, so ner goofy )
Helen
edit: I've just re-read this and would like to clarify that I meant we have perfected it so there is no chance that anyone will see anything that they're not supposed to. I didn't mean anything else biggrin
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#177820 - 05/29/02 07:16 PM Re: Comments: Roadtrekking: Part 2/12
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Jeff wrote:
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No, men rarely think logically when it comes to watching women remove clothing. There is always that slim possibility that maybe, just maybe the guy might get to see more than they were supposed to. Plus the fact that there is now one less layer of clothing between him and you.


I admire your candor, Jeff. biggrin
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#177821 - 05/29/02 10:07 PM Re: Comments: Roadtrekking: Part 2/12
gerry Offline
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Registered: 04/12/01
Posts: 551
Loc: Canada
I just wrote the longest post ever and because I put too many of those little happy/confused faces in, I was told to go back and now I've lost it all. Very sad face.

I've been reading your comments over the last few days and they've left ML and me in a bit of a quandry. Do we give away what we had planned to reveal slowly throughout the story in order to answer your questions or do we sit back and smile that we've got the answers and we won't tell? It's a problem when some of you (Vicky) hit the nail on the head while others (Pam, Wendy, Jeff) want some answers sooner.

That's the problem when we post stories on the boards in installments. We want your reactions so that we can fix some of the problems, but the reader misses some of the natural flow of the story. All questions can't be answered in the beginning. We need to leave some questions for you, our readers. Anticipation! Suspense! (Unfortunately, we may lose readers because of this.)

Just to let you know, the story is completed although we do go back and make changes.

Jeff, thanks for your explanation of why men are fascinated by the taking-off-bra-undershirt move. You validated what we were saying.

Some of you are unhappy with June and Billy Ray, as you should be. There is a reason...bear with us. Well, maybe we could cut a few out...

Wendy, I'm learning a lot on these boards about the differences in American, Canadian, and British pop culture. When Jude and Marilyn read our story, each questioned what a j-cloth was. Carol Malo had no problem with the concept. Well, then, she's Canadian, eh? What always stood out for me though, was the amount of pop cultural references made on the TV show. Of course, now that I want to throw an example out, my mind has gone blank.

Thanks for laughing with us and we do appreciate your candid comments.

gerry

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#177822 - 05/29/02 11:13 PM Re: Comments: Roadtrekking: Part 2/12
ChiefPam Offline
Lane and Kent

Registered: 04/14/01
Posts: 1966
Loc: North Carolina, USA
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I've been reading your comments over the last few days and they've left ML and me in a bit of a quandry. Do we give away what we had planned to reveal slowly throughout the story in order to answer your questions or do we sit back and smile that we've got the answers and we won't tell? It's a problem when some of you (Vicky) hit the nail on the head while others (Pam, Wendy, Jeff) want some answers sooner.


I can't speak for Wendy and Jeff, but personally I don't need answers right now. I just want to know that answers are forthcoming smile -- knowing that, I'm willing to wait to see what they are. I don't mind authors keeping secrets (it's part of a good story, really), it's just the suspicion that the author hasn't thought something through that annoys me. Glad to hear that's not the case in this story smile

PJ
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#177823 - 05/30/02 12:21 AM Re: Comments: Roadtrekking: Part 2/12
jwb Offline
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Registered: 04/12/01
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Do we give away what we had planned to reveal slowly throughout the story in order to answer your questions or do we sit back and smile that we've got the answers and we won't tell?


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Just to let you know, the story is completed although we do go back and make changes.


I think I can solve your quandry. Post the whole thing now. That way we'll get the flow of things *and* get our answers.

Seriously, questions and quirks are fine. We just want to make sure you are aware of these things. We question because we care!
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